california. 53% voted for proposition 8 in california. we're extremely conservative. and we also have to understand there's a big difference between old latino community of, say, 20, 30 years ago, what i call cesar chavez latino community, you know, new york, puerto ricans in new york and chicago and those in the southwest, who have been in the u.s. since the u.s. basically took half of mexico and new latino population, foreign born, 40% foreign born and the rest are the children of immigrants. very conservative. i know when asked about government they may give answers that are not extraordinary. but sometimes we get caught up with polls. we certainly have seen it in this election title -- cycle. and i think with latinos, besides polling them with specific issues, if we had a better understanding of where they're coming from, will you get an understanding of why they're answering the question that way. but i believe with the latino community we lost the latino vote because of immigration. if we w